tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post3379588343557144390..comments2024-03-28T22:25:17.706+00:00Comments on New Elementary: LEGO® parts, sets and techniques: What's in a name?Adminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-59980156957779828622020-08-22T05:06:57.688+01:002020-08-22T05:06:57.688+01:00Us? overlook something? Nevah ;)
See link in thi...Us? overlook something? Nevah ;)<br /><br />See link in this article to Ryan's authoritative list <a href="https://www.newelementary.com/2015/03/lego-colour-chart-reference.html" rel="nofollow">Ryan Howerter explains the confusing world of LEGO colours</a>Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-14886849868408126452020-08-22T05:04:21.910+01:002020-08-22T05:04:21.910+01:00I'd prefer only the Bricklink names in the sen...I'd prefer only the Bricklink names in the sentences, but make the TLG names easily accessible somehow—the hover text idea, or perhaps you should put up a color name conversion page on your site. (is there a comprehensive one out there somewhere already? I used to rely on the Peeron color conversion chart, but lately I haven't been able to find anything better than a couple-year-old random forum post.)<br /><br />If you're going to continue to use both color names, I'd really appreciate it if you /always/ use both color names, even when they're identical. When I'm reading through and see only one name, I always have to double-check whether it's because TLG and Bricklink match, or because you overlooked one. nathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518013024314796671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-86068190677331528522020-08-21T14:48:15.263+01:002020-08-21T14:48:15.263+01:00In the finest traditions of Dark Bley, why not &qu...In the finest traditions of Dark Bley, why not "Vibraqua" isn't that the intuitively obvious name so we all know exactly what shade we're talking about? It's the color you didn't know you needed, but now can't do without (assuming you're designing a really hip bathroom, circa 1969, because you need a groovy contrast with the neon orange wall tiles and lime green tub) <br /> ;->ShaydDeGraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706934427103573381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-19097861091713550082020-08-21T13:27:55.626+01:002020-08-21T13:27:55.626+01:00Thirded. This has to be something that could be do...Thirded. This has to be something that could be done via scripting.benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11174955338610582509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-90051061259499868612020-08-21T09:59:17.988+01:002020-08-21T09:59:17.988+01:00I order from both Bricklink and Lego's bricks ...I order from both Bricklink and Lego's bricks and pieces, so I need to know both names. I tend to think of the colours as TLG's names as they are the official namers of their colours, but both names are essential to know. In fact it helps when you display both, so we can get used to how the different names equate to each other.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13516209046645011161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-61030553984447462022020-08-21T09:13:57.255+01:002020-08-21T09:13:57.255+01:00Could New Elementary lobby TLG for a standard nome...Could New Elementary lobby TLG for a standard nomenclature now that they own Bricklink?AddictedToStyrenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05121470091208531530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-22080306727283335492020-08-21T09:12:19.585+01:002020-08-21T09:12:19.585+01:00I second this. I didn't think of it but it is ...I second this. I didn't think of it but it is a great ideaAddictedToStyrenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05121470091208531530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-26818757281549066502020-08-21T07:06:10.095+01:002020-08-21T07:06:10.095+01:00Vibrant Aqua.Vibrant Aqua.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-900303018140321852020-08-21T07:05:37.141+01:002020-08-21T07:05:37.141+01:00Good point.Good point.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-48280806527921004822020-08-21T06:20:23.078+01:002020-08-21T06:20:23.078+01:00This is what happens the moment your back is turne...This is what happens the moment your back is turned ;)Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-52499135868530059022020-08-21T06:18:07.845+01:002020-08-21T06:18:07.845+01:00Lolz. I won't be asking people to amend, and I...Lolz. I won't be asking people to amend, and I might not bring this in until the new site is done. I won't be amending historical posts either (but the tooltip thing will pick up whichever names we go with and automatically add the links).Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-27436482626394104162020-08-21T06:15:26.721+01:002020-08-21T06:15:26.721+01:00The plugin I intend to use was the best for access...The plugin I intend to use was the best for accessibility when I first used it on another site in 2019 so hopefully all good there, or as good as can be.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188856208086872634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-285075198476674852020-08-21T04:43:24.007+01:002020-08-21T04:43:24.007+01:00I voted for keeping it the same because, while I u...I voted for keeping it the same because, while I use Bricklink's (FAR more intuitive) colour names, I like to learn about LEGO's (silly) colour names while reading your articles. However if you were to pare it back to just one system, Bricklink's 100%.CloneyOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-47564104320046576802020-08-21T02:05:04.484+01:002020-08-21T02:05:04.484+01:00Since I predominantly use Bricklink to source my p...Since I predominantly use Bricklink to source my parts, those are the names I'm most concerned with. While I find several of the TLG names to be either silly or entirely innacurate, I don't object to their inclusion. The formatting, on the other hand, has been a bit cumbersome at times. Especially if it's early in the morning or late at night, trying to read a paragraph with half a dozen color names can feel a bit like slamming into a brick wall. Any method you can use to visually differentiate between the two sets of terms would be really helpful, so here are some ideas I came up with in case you end up trying to keep both handy in the articles:<br /><br />1. Put one set in bold, italics, or a different color of text.<br />2. Use one set in the article, but include a short chart at the bottom of the text matching up the two sets.<br />3. Build a full chart like the one on Peeron, and simply include one link in every article pointing interested readers towards it (regardless of how you end up handling this, a second comprehensive chart would be a good idea, since I don't know if Peeron's is still being updated with new colors).Purple Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-30345505704584914792020-08-20T21:55:06.295+01:002020-08-20T21:55:06.295+01:00I have always found the BL naming convention to be... I have always found the BL naming convention to be far more intuitive when trying to visualize any given color just from reading the name, especially if it is not a common color. From what I gather, that was the whole point of BL rolling their own scheme in the first place. Long ago I committed to working with the BL scheme in my personal workflow and now am far too entrenched to find it practical to have to work with the 'Official' naming.<br /><br /> My vote is to display BL color and hover-display LEGO Official color as alt text. (You'll have to sort out whether such coding is suitably compliant with mechanisms serving the visually impaired/blind.) I would also hope that BL can sort out their own historical errors without other sites having to work around the problems. Perhaps now that LEGO own BL they could provide the necessary and historically accurate resources to help improve the BL database, which would only be fair considering they are now profiting from the usage of the site, and seeing as LEGO has multiple redundant vaults containing a copy of every set ever released.UltraViolet77https://www.blogger.com/profile/15482693394837010913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-27500229092841774482020-08-20T21:46:53.590+01:002020-08-20T21:46:53.590+01:00LDD uses the official LEGO color names so I know t...LDD uses the official LEGO color names so I know those better, if you have to pick one I'd prefer those even though some of the names are kind of strangePicnic Basket Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00535132144047526117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-57128500470713570092020-08-20T20:48:24.331+01:002020-08-20T20:48:24.331+01:00Personally I would prefer it stay the same... both...Personally I would prefer it stay the same... both because I know I'm in a bit of a minority in preferring the TLG names and because I don't want to have to redo my currently in-progress reviews. :PAndrew Barnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723179808721244651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-9190236920902368672020-08-20T20:23:24.749+01:002020-08-20T20:23:24.749+01:00I think either way it goes, the hover tooltip will...I think either way it goes, the hover tooltip will make everyone happy. I'm also looking forward to that redesign - kudos to whoever is making that happen!Joseph Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079512698163123333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-31825122154398511472020-08-20T17:36:56.962+01:002020-08-20T17:36:56.962+01:00Stay the same!Stay the same!Elspeth De Monteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322298254361189092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-85192817772070287782020-08-20T16:01:38.365+01:002020-08-20T16:01:38.365+01:00I must say that I would prefer you continue using ...I must say that I would prefer you continue using both names, but I won't mind whatever you decide :)BrickoMotionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06210819624022606870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-53402055108862681632020-08-20T15:28:17.971+01:002020-08-20T15:28:17.971+01:00I'm fine with leaving things as they are given...I'm fine with leaving things as they are given that other fan sites aren't standardized either. Keeping a reminder of the equivalences between TLG and BL names right in front of my face as I'm reading is useful when I'm also popping between Bricks &Pieces, BrickOwl, BrickLink and others. <br /><br />As new colors are introduced, TLG will probably force a convergence so new incompatibilities aren't introduced ("Earth Aqua v. New Dark Aqua v. Darkaqua") but for legacy colors, I find it more helpful than awkward to know both historic names up front. <br /><br />I'd still be okay with hot linking the labels though. It might be nice to have every color catalogued and reference linked so one could get a popup of the official name, its AFOL aliases, the RGB (or RGBA in the case of transparent parts) values, its official color code, and small swatch without having to pop-over to a separate reference site to look it up.ShaydDeGraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706934427103573381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-4431743024811359752020-08-20T13:20:19.318+01:002020-08-20T13:20:19.318+01:00It's just so confusing. BrickOwl uses a mix be...It's just so confusing. BrickOwl uses a mix between TLG and BL names, Rebrickable follows BL mostly but also some names are different.<br /><br />And what if BL starts forcing TLG naming? That would clear it up in the long run, but it would just cause total chaos on the short term.Drieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12077839492120208462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-37973967465383666662020-08-20T13:17:19.472+01:002020-08-20T13:17:19.472+01:00As a heavy user of Bricklink's Stud.io, I am a...As a heavy user of Bricklink's Stud.io, I am advocating for their colors. However, you could use layman's names for some colors (e.g. everyone will know what "opalescent pink" is).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13730579740894910629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-10039988402877965582020-08-20T12:15:47.144+01:002020-08-20T12:15:47.144+01:00I like Ben Rogers' idea of selectable preferen...I like Ben Rogers' idea of selectable preferences. I find BL color names more helpful in everyday use, including interaction with other AFOLs. However, there is at least one place TLG uses their actual color names: Bricks & Pieces. Click on an element in your search results and you get a pop-up detail window which includes "color" a.k.a. color family and a "description" which corresponds to the TLG color name. Online Pick-a-Brick may use them as well.BrickTellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02256886634752888155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-276033407505619194.post-46419238744902310852020-08-20T11:56:17.810+01:002020-08-20T11:56:17.810+01:00I'm not sure the practical use of knowing TLG&...I'm not sure the practical use of knowing TLG's name of a colour, so I'm in the Bricklink camp.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01144667652015747514noreply@blogger.com